episode_title: David, the Latecomer King – Firstborn E7
show_title: BibleProject
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episode_publish_date: 2023-02-13
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🎧 18:55 - 20:25 (01:29)
Tim Mackie: is the story of the origin of kingship in Israel. And as you work through, especially into 1 Samuel 9 through 15, which is the story of Saul, the whole story is setting his rise and fall on analogy with the Israelites and their failure with the golden calf in Egypt. In other words, this is remarkable. The narrator who's retelling the story of the origins of kingship in Israel is trying to show us that it was an act of idolatrous mistrust from the very beginning. Wow. That's crazy. Yeah. Well, what's funny is because oftentimes in biblical scholarship, the book of Samuel is referred to as like ancient Israelite propaganda for the monarchy in Israel. And you're just like, wow, like we're missing some serious signals here because it's an indictment of the monarchy. It's not propaganda for it. It's the opposite. But anyway, that depends on the assumptions you have as you go into these stories in the first place.
🎧 31:58 - 32:23 (00:24)
Tim Mackie: I miss something? Eliab
Jon Collins: isn't described as which son. It's just one of the sons. Oh,
Tim Mackie: and not yet. You'll learn it's this good Hebrew narrative style where the key information is left to the very end of the story, which forces you to go back and reread it. So you're right. You don't know if he's the firstborn or not. What you know is he's a son of Jesse and that he's super tall. And he's tall. And he's really tall, like Saul.
🎧 40:10 - 41:09 (00:58)
Tim Mackie: Yeah. I think I've ever used that word. Oh, look at the NIV. He was glowing with health. Oh, wow. Okay. New Living Translation, he was dark and handsome. Dark and handsome. All right. It's fascinating. It's the Hebrew word admoni, which it's the form of the Hebrew word adam, which is what Esau is called when he's red. It's the word red, but it means he has a dark complexion. Okay. So apparently had a... Yeah.
Jon Collins: So the dark and handsome, that comes from Rudy and beautiful... Oh, because he says... Oh, beautiful eyes is the next line. Okay. Yeah.
Tim Mackie: Yeah.
Jon Collins: So he had a really dark complexion, but bright,
Tim Mackie: beautiful eyes and a handsome appearance. Okay. So he also has an appearance.
Jon Collins: Hmm. Okay.
Tim Mackie: And actually that handsome appearance... Yeah.
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